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Saturday, 29 May 2010

Did LKY Lie We Were Kicked Out of Malaysia?

I was too young to remember the time when Singapore separated from Malaysia. All I know is that Lee Kuan Yew put up a good show crying crocodile tears on TV.

According to LKY, the Tengku kicked us out. However, I have come across other sources, which point that it was LKY who wanted out and threatened the Tengku with the Chinese Race Card if he did not let Singapore go. The Tengku relented.

That meeting happened in a place where there were only two people - The Tengku and LKY himself. The Tengku has since passed away and that leaves LKY to tell the world whatever (corrupted) version he wants to, unchallenged.

Well, as you know, when you tell a lie, you have to tell another lie to cover that lie. Then you have to tell yet another lie to cover that one too. It carries on until you cannot remember what lies you told.

So, it finally had to happen. The pack of lies told to us, that we were kicked out from Malaysia has finally collapsed. Here is an article in the ST Forum, which touches on LKY's eulogy, which gave away the fact that we were not kicked out, but instead, Singapore had planned to leave all along.

Separation from Malaysia: How crucial was Dr Goh's role?
MINISTER Mentor Lee Kuan Yew made an interestingly significant remark about Singapore's separation from Malaysia in his eulogy at Sunday's state funeral for his colleague-in-arms, former Deputy Prime Minister Goh Keng Swee.

MM Lee said he had asked Dr Goh to negotiate a looser rearrangement for Singapore, but to keep Singapore within Malaysia.

Added MM Lee: 'He (Dr Goh) decided that the best alternative was a clean break. After (Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister) Tun Abdul Razak and (Minister for External Affairs) Tun Dr Ismail Abdul Rahman agreed, (Law Minister) Eddie Barker and I worked furiously to settle the terms of the separation.'

MM Lee's remark is intriguing in the light of the conventional narrative of the events leading up to Separation in 1965. From all that historians have gleaned prior to MM Lee's remarks on Sunday, MM Lee, who was then Prime Minister, played the pivotal role involving Separation.

His remarks suggest that the decision to break away from Malaysia was decided unilaterally by Dr Goh at the crucial moment; against the proposition MM Lee, and perhaps the collective Cabinet, had decided; which was at the very least, to still remain a part of the Malaysian federation of states.

If the above is true, the apparent contradiction should be resolved. A key question that arises from MM Lee's remarks is this: What was the extent and significance of Dr Goh's role in Separation? Furthermore, MM Lee's remark also suggests that the key Malaysian leaders - Tun Razak and Dr Ismail - agreed to Dr Goh's proposal of a clean break.

This would imply that it may well have been Singapore which precipitated the idea of Separation, rather than Malaysia, as has been the notion all this while, stemming from first Malaysian Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman's view. He reconfirmed, when I interviewed him a few years before he died, that he overruled the strident objections of his extremist colleagues in Umno in deciding to sack Singapore from Malaysia.

It would be informative, if not instructive, if MM Lee or Dr Toh Chin Chye (then chairman of the PAP and the only key surviving member of the Old Guard today) shed more light on this critical turning point in the history of Singapore and Malaysia.

Associate Professor Hussin Mutalib

I have always suspected that it was LKY who wanted Singapore out. I never believed his claims that Singapore was "kicked out". While the LKY's eulogy implies that it was Dr Goh's idea for separation, I still believe that it was LKY's idea. After all, he has been known to fib about history.

Besides the point that he misrepresented Singapore was kicked out, he has also tried to cover up the fact that he was elected as PM in the early days only by virtue of the Chairman's vote. It was a tie between him and Ong Eng Guan for the post. Dr Toh casted the final (Chairman's vote) for LKY. However, LKY tries to deny that did happen, as can be seen in this article I wrote in Sep 2009

Old Man wants all the glory to himself
In the following article published in the Straits Times dated 5 Sep 09, Did Lee become PM by one vote?, Old Man claims he has no knowledge of the one vital vote, casted by Dr Toh Chin Chye (the Chairman of the PAP then), that allowed him to be the PM of Singapore. It was a nail-biting 6-6 vote, casted by the "inner core" of the pioneer PAP leaders. It was a tie between Ong Eng Guan and Lee Kuan Yew.

Being a tie, the chairman, Dr Toh, exercised the chair's vote, and Old Man became the PM.

But, Old Man, being what he is, does not want to admit it. He denies that there was such an event. Phew! Now why did Old Man have to wait for 50 years to say that? All along, it was written in the history books that he won by the chair's vote.

In the same article, I mentioned how LKY probably planned the merger in the first place, with the intention to leave the Federation later, so that he could be the PM of Independent Singapore. It was a perfect plan to oust his greatest rival then, Lim Chin Siong.

The article continues below.

A search on the internet will also reveal a few startling things about the history of Singapore. Here are some pointers.

Before independence, Chin Siong was Lee's biggest threat. While Chin Siong controlled the Chinese ground, Lee had the favours of the British government. But everything was hanging precariously and power could swing to either side.

Lee then planned a merger with Malaysia. It appeared that the merger was an excellent way to rid Chin Siong. Both the Brits and Tengku were uncomfortable with Chin Siong because he appeared to be a communist.

Till today, there is still controversy if he was communist. I would be inclined to believe the Chin Siong sounded communist because he used the Chinese race card to rally the people. (Hey, hasn't Old Man used the same Chinese race card for decades too? And no one dares claim he is a commie?)

I do not believe Chin Siong was a communist. The Brits (whom LKY was very much aligned to) were only too keen to link Chin Siong with the commies to contain him. With the merger planned, Lee had an excellent excuse to get Chin Siong locked up since both the Brits and Tengku did not like to have Chin Siong around.

You can do a search on "Lim Chin Siong" to get more news about the Lim Chin Siong vs Lee Kuan Yew dispute. That was really something.


My opinion on the Lim vs Lee episode

It was either Lim Chin Siong or Lee Kuan Yew. The fight for power to control was on the balance. While Lim used the Chinese ground for his support, Lee used the Brits for his support. What probably tilted the balance was the merger. Lee got the Tengku on his side too, because the Tengku was wary of Lim as well.

After the threat of Lim was over, it was time for Lee to create enough trouble for the Tengku, so that Singapore could be fully independent. Lee's story was that the Tengku kicked Singapore out. Tengku's story was that Lee wanted out and hence created problems.

So who is to be believed?

With the fact now exposed that Old Man is willing to twist history about the single vote by Dr Toh Chin Chye, who knows what other facts he has been twisting since the 1950s? After all, the Tengku is no longer around to dispute the story.


My viewpoint on the merger

The merger probably served Lee very well. It was the perfect way to rid of his biggest adversary, Chin Siong. At the same time, he could engineer for Singapore's independence so that he could be the PM of a truly independent Singapore.

It was not that Lee did not know that Malaysia's constitution stated the special privileges for the Malays. He asked for the merger with his eyes opened. Yet, after merging, he contested that very special privilege. It is like asking your neighbour to invite you to a party, then when he graciously lets you in, you start ordering him how he should host the party.

The merger itself caused Malaysia to have problems with Indonesia and Philippines. Malaysia's plan was to include Sabah, Sarawak and Brunei. Singapore was initially NOT on the list. Singapore asked to be invited and was accepted.

Indonesia and Philippines saw the merger as an expansionist plan by Malaysia and felt threatened. This was the Confrontation period. There were terror attacks from Indonesia against Malaysia. And Singapore, being part of Malaysia by virtue of the merger, was also attacked.

A point that I would like to make here is that, the PAP cites this incident was that the "sea of Malays around us" seeked to attack the majority Chinese Singaporeans.

I feel that Lee is trying to play the race card that Singapore being majority Chinese, are seen as enemies by the Malays around us. The fact was that this was actually about one Malay country (Indonesia) against another Malay country (Malaysia). Singapore was dragged in, because we were part of Malaysia. Not because the Malays were against the Chinese.

The above is yet another twist and lie, in the books of the PAP, headed by Old Man.


My Conclusion

Lee can claim that he is the "Father of Singapore" and that he is the one behind Singapore's success. But we have seen how he twists history, such that he is seen that he has attained a godlike status.

My opinion is that if Ong Eng Guan had been PM, he would have taken Singapore the same path. Perhaps, we would see the Ong Dynasty instead of the Lee Dynasty.

As for Lim Chin Siong, I also feel that if he had been Singapore's PM, we would still be the same Singapore, more or less. Some critics say that he was a communist and would steer away from Western technology, which brought about Singapore's economic success.

I dispute the above. Firstly, it was never proven he was communist. Secondly, if he had been PM, I am sure he would have abandoned his reference to China, changed allies, and taken advantage of the Western influence.

If Lee could have changed so quickly from let's merge with Malaysia to let's create trouble for Malaysia, surely Chin Siong could have changed his spots as quickly as Old Man.

Of course, also if Lim had been PM, in all probability, we would have to tolerate the Lim Dynasty instead.

Singapore does not depend on one man alone. Singapore's success is due to a group of hardworking leaders and citizens. The man at the top is shaped by what the group of leaders and the community do. He is dispensable.....no, he is expendable.

It looks as time goes on, LKY has difficulty in remembering the number of lies he has told Singaporeans. For every slip up he makes about the past, he reveals a ton of untold secrets about Singapore's, PAP's and his own history.

The latest slip up to be exposed is of course, we were never kicked out of Malaysia. It was planned by the Singapore side to use Malaysia as a scapegoat to get independence from the Brits - and to lock Chin Siong up, so that LKY could be PM of Independent Singapore.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow, is it the mother-of-all lies now had surfaced?
If so, then possibly no wonder the mid-year bonus now should come in very handy as they are gonna have a hugh job ahead to do a damage control that can rival what BP is now doing in the Gulf of Mexico.
We shall see, interestingly.
Terence.

Anonymous said...

Wow I have to say you got the guts! The Lees will just sue anyone, no matter if there is any evidence in favor of them or not. And of course, if the trail is held in Singapore, they will surely win.

Anonymous said...

Either way, both sides can never co-exist.

Malaysia is a nation built on the basis of Bumiputras, or exclusive rights for Malays.

Better to have a secular nation, than live in a religious country.

Anonymous said...

Whatever it is, we have all reaped the benefits of the results....

Anonymous said...

Yes.

No doubt the old man was a sinister conniving monster, but he did the one right thing.

Singapore and Malaysia may share a similar history and colonial master, but the fact remains unchanged that they wanted to form an Islamic country based on a bumiputra system which is far more blatantly racist than any of the systems LKY can conjure.

In sum, both countries have distinct identities which make them very strange bed fellows. Splitting was inevitable, and splitting early was even better. The results speak for themselves.

flyer168 said...

Just to share this...

Malaysia lost their once "Great Malaysian Sons" who could have given Malaysia their all, to make Malaysia a great nation....

Thanks to people like the late Syed Jaafar Albar & Syed Nasir, who first created the rift & bikerings that caused Tengku to expell Singapore....LKY was shocked & he cried!

Syed Jaafar Albar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Jaafar_Albar "...Later, he had participated in verbal duels with the charismatic Singaporean Prime Minister, Lee Kuan Yew, over the issue of Ketuanan Melayu (Malay sovereignty over Malaysia).

Lee accused Albar of being an "ultra" for making remarks such as "Wherever I am, I am a Malay." Lee excoriated him for this, asking "If I had been going round and saying what [he] has been saying — wherever I am, I am a Chinese — where would we be?

But I keep on reminding the people that I am a Malaysian. I am learning Bahasa Kebangsaan (Malay, the national language) and I accept Article 153 of the Constitution."[6]

Albar also accused Lee and some other Chinese Malaysians — referring to them as kaum pendatang or pendatang asing (immigrants) — of being lodgers (orang tumpangan), abusing the hospitality of the Malays who were the "masters of the house".

This provoked a response from Cabinet member Lim Swee Aun, who insisted "we are co-owners, not lodgers, not guests."[7][8] Unquote.

Singapore rejected in Aug 1965...
LKY cried & made the resolve - Singapore will Survive! YouTube - Singapore rejected http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ND3U_9HgQ&feature=related

LKY had all the "Once Malaysian Brains" to create "what Malaysia could have been"....Singapore as it is today....in 45 years!

Compared to what the UMNO/BN has done in that 45 years, to "Abuse, Corrupt & Destroy" this once great nation Malaysia... to be what it is now!

In my opinion, LKY had 2 issues, namely the Communist threat & its Independence from the Colonial rule at that point in time...

So the merger with Malaya/ Malaysia would be the "Fast Track" to achieve both goals.

Watch the Utube video When Tengku expelled Singapore....LKY was shocked & he cried!

With no choice left, he had to make the resolve from scratch - to pledge that Singapore will Survive!

Contd...Part 2

flyer168 said...

Part 2

I was born in KK Singapore in the 40s, brought up in Siglap, when my late father was a practicing lawyer in Singapore then, my late gandfather, the Assistant Chief Kathi staying in Java Road.

Had spent time in Singapore in the 60s with Malayan Airways, Malaysian Airways, MSA & SIA until 1973 to join MAS.

I had been the President of my Professional Association for 27 years until I retired in 2002; I must admit that it takes courage & guts to pick oneself up (as a leader to lead your people!) to make that resolve after having been shattered by the unexpected expulsion from Malaysia...

The lesson learnt from my Singapore experience on the "Positives" with "Meritocracy, Responsibility, Integrity & Accountability" which I still practice & have passed on the values to my children & grandchildren.

To me the Leadership & Vision of LKY to put Singapore on the World Map, to be at "par" with its Global partners, to have Walked his Talk, is well worth the citizens' sacrifice.

The guaranteed delivery of the Basic citizens' facilities, Amenities, etc with the Time Proven Systems has been the "Benchmark Best Practice" which is something the Malaysians are deprived of.

In the late 70s, when we have our passengers comment on how clean, organised & disciplined Singapore was, the service delivery standards of MSA/SIA from Singapore to destination, etc...

It made us feel good & proud of the nation & the Government then... inspite of our citizenry sacrifices.

LKY had a good team in the late Goh Keng Swee, Toh Chin Chye, Rajaratnam, etc with him as the Executor & they delivered.

Btw, I was glad I left my CPF intact since the 60s until my retirement in 2002 as compared to my Malaysian EPF - it grew to quite an amount for my retirement!

Just to share these inspiring & touching Tributes to Dr Goh Keng Swee...

One of those I had admired during my time with Malayan Airways, Malaysian Airways, MSA, & Singapore Airline days in Singapore in the 60s to 70s....

May 23, 2010 - Farewell to Dr Goh Keng Swee - eulogy from grand niece Marian Hu - Another personal glimpse into the life of the late Dr Goh Keng Swee was given when his grand niece Marian Hui, paid the final eulogy at the state funeral. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fm28dPoEXI&feature=related

A Tribute to Dr Goh Keng Swee Pt3/6 [Ch5 English] As Defence/Economic Minister - Listen to LKY's Speech & President Nathan's Reference to Dr Goh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfYNf9GhXaw&feature=related

A Tribute to Dr Goh Keng Swee Pt4/6 [Ch5 English] Defence, Technology, Hi-Tech Industry, Agriculture, Defence Scholarships, Noah's Ark Memo to SAF, Finance & Defence Minister, "Mr Fix-it", Education Minister "Goh's Daring Dozen".... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyy98TZlvq0&feature=related

A Tribute to Dr Goh Keng Swee Pt6/6 [Ch5 English] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRwCI2nlwc&feature=related

Goh, a Peranakan who was born in Malacca on Oct 6, 1918, retired as deputy prime minister in December 1984 due to personal reasons.

The "economic architect" of Singapore contributed greatly to shaping the country into a prosperous nation as the first finance minister in 1959 and later as the defence minister of an independent Singapore. Goh was the son of a rich family in Malacca. His father, Goh Leng Inn, was a manager of a rubber plantation. His mother hailed from the family that produced famous Malaysian politicians Tun Tan Cheng Lock and his son, Tun Tan Siew Sin. - Bernama

You be the judge.

Cheers.

flyer168 said...

Correction....

In the mid 60s to early 70s, when we had our passengers comment on how clean, organised & disciplined Singapore was, the service delivery standards of MSA/SIA from Singapore to destination, etc...

Cheers.

solo bear said...

Anon:
>>Singapore and Malaysia may share a similar history and colonial master, but the fact remains unchanged that they wanted to form an Islamic country based on a bumiputra system which is far more blatantly racist than any of the systems LKY can conjure.
>>

Me:
Please get your facts right. Malaysia has NEVER pushed for an Islamic country. It is PAS that tried to do so. Malaysia's constitution has always been race based, not religion based.

I am not here to argue with you whether LKY or Malaysia is more racist. I am here to point out that LKY has fibbed a lot, including lied to us Malaysia kicked us out, pretended not to remember he became PM with just one vote, and of course he used the merger to have Chin Siong locked up but sold the idea of the merger to Singaporeans that it would be good for us.

>>In sum, both countries have distinct identities which make them very strange bed fellows. Splitting was inevitable, and splitting early was even better. The results speak for themselves.
>>

Splitting was DESIGNED by LKY. He intended to merge so that we could break off from the Brits. After getting the Brits off Singapore's back with the merger, LKY created trouble for Tengku, so that he could be free from Malaysia. His idea was that he could be PM of Independent Singapore. If we had not merged, he would be only PM of colonised Singapore (under Brit rule).

Stop being naive that the breakup was inevitable. If you ask me, the merger itself was unnecessary. The Brits would have given us independence anyway. But LKY wanted to merge, because he needed an excuse to lock Chin Siong up.

If there was no merger, Chin Siong would not be locked up and when the Brits do give us independence, it may well have been PM Lim Chin Siong, the first PM of Independent Singapore. LKY saw that coming - that's why the merger and the breakup. He had to get rid of Chin Siong before Singapore became truly independent.


Flyer, all your links and history are based on history (that's his-story according to LKY), which is a derivative of LKY's fibs, isn't it?

So what's new?

LKY has fork tongue said...

Well said SB, well said indeed!

Version according to LKY is truth ? What a freakin joke !

Read all LKY's past and present speeches, observe all his past and present actions, it says it all.

ps: the key to it all is his track record of having served the japs who butchered civilians during WW2

Jeannette said...

I like this post.

flyer168 said...

Let us study Mahathir (Madey) & LKY holistically...

LKY & Syed Hussein Al Atas of UM (LKY's Adviser on Socialism & Guided Democracy) were Mahathir's "Hero & Mentor"

When LKY's vision was realised, Madey had to find ways to justify his shortcomings thus he had to find ways to find faults with LKY, then until presently with no success....

LKY is still Relevant Regionally & Internationally whereas Madey is now Irrelevant.

As 2nd PM Tun Razak was also Mahathir's "Mentor PM" he has to be "Equal to or Better then" Razak whose son is the present PM....

As it is Jibby OWES Madey for his DPMship & PMship, therefore he is "Beholden" to Madey.

Present DPM also OWES Madey for his UMNO General Assembly PR Coup', and therefore he is also "Beholden" to Madey.

Madey is witness to all their "Skeletons & Scandals" for as long as he is alive.

In my opinion, Madey will not "rest" until his "Last Vision" to have his son Mukriz elevated as a Senior Minister, then as the DPM and finally as the PM (Madey has his ways!) & his other son Mokhzani appointed as a Senator & Businessman (Porsche Franchise holder!) to match Jibby's brother Nazir of CIMB ...at all cost.

In my opinion also - With LKY, his "Last hopeful Vision" as a Regional & Global Leader, is to create the new "Greater Southern Joint Economic Grouping" inline with the NWO agenda.

Presently it is Singapore, Batam, Pedro Blanca/Batu Puteh, Brunei, Johore IDR already in hand - followed by Johore, Sabah & Sarawak, then possibly Selangor, Trengganu, Kelantan, Kedah & Penang. Johore's IDR will be its "Strategic Command Post"

As you can see a Leader's "Vision & Perception" is to leave a "Regional & Global Legacy" on his achievements which is a Positive for Singapore & its Citizen's Ecomomic survival in the 21st Century context...

Versus the citizen's perception of his "Autocatic" style.

Just like a very busy "Go-getter" father working very hard & being strict with his family....

At the end the family after all the sacrificing, will enjoy the "Fruits" of the father's hard labour - with a good Life & who will eventually inherit all the Father's Wealth.

I am a father of 02 grown up daughter & Son, grandfather of 07 grandchildren, now enjoying the fruits of my four decades of Blood, Sweat & Tears - my Malaysian Dream.

So is my familly enjoying the fruits of their sacrifices...

I have this saying...

The Pessimist Complains...

The Optimist believes the Winds will Change...

I being a Realist...Will Adjust my Sails Accordingly & Move On to my Destination & Beyond...

Do give it a thought & you be the judge.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure if LKY lied or did a media spin on dad news to avoid mass hysteria, but Dr Lee Wei Ling's snipplet in The Straits Times (http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_543104.html) tells me of a caring family man, devoted to his wife. Such a man can only have good intentions for the community and the nation.

Anonymous said...

>> So what's new?

Lies so the world could give LKY a standing ovation for the lame 'success'. Look at the top ten ministers in the cabinet. Isn't that racist?

Manusia Biasa.

Kingsmen said...

in my opinion ...not only lky lied but he lied thru his teeth...